Guest Anonymous Posted June 1, 2002 Posted June 1, 2002 Recently, I've purchased a black and tan coonhound puppy. (I'm going to pick it up at the airport next week) The black and tan coonhound puppy is bred to hunt. I don't hunt, and neither does the rest of my family. We don't want our coonhound to be a hunter. We want it to do fun tricks (ex. Catching frisbees, retrieving different items). I want my puppy to eventually know the basic commands (ex. sitting, staying, healing). My question is, is it possible to teach a dog (bred for hunting), tricks that it normally wouldn't be doing? --Bracco-- Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 1, 2002 Posted June 1, 2002 Bracco: There's a saying about doing tricks with dogs: "Get the dog for the trick, not the trick for the dog". I dont know much about the B&T hound in the agility deparment. Would have suggested to get a B. Collie or Lab for the activities you talk about, but im sure your puppy would love to learn these things with you. Dont limit him/her in what they can do? Good luck in your training. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 1, 2002 Posted June 1, 2002 [quote name='bracco']Recently, I've purchased a black and tan coonhound puppy. (I'm going to pick it up at the airport next week) The black and tan coonhound puppy is bred to hunt. I don't hunt, and neither does the rest of my family. We don't want our coonhound to be a hunter. We want it to do fun tricks (ex. Catching frisbees, retrieving different items). I want my puppy to eventually know the basic commands (ex. sitting, staying, healing). My question is, is it possible to teach a dog (bred for hunting), tricks that it normally wouldn't be doing? --Bracco-- Yes its possible though it make take some serious efforts in behavior modification/training but I think the better question would be will it be fun for you all? Born to hunt using its nose a coonhound will bay with a loud voice, will track, won't be able to be let off lead because it will follow its nose off beyond the horizon etc I don't understand why you chose a breed without considering what you wanted it for... Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 2, 2002 Posted June 2, 2002 The reason I have chosen the Black and Tan Hound as a pet is not only because it is cute but it's different. Black and tan coon hounds are rare in my area. They are just...well....different. I have done some research on this breed and it does say that they were bred for hunting. Maybe they can pick up tricks from their natural extincts? I have the time and the patience, and it will be fun. I lived with a basset hound for about 4 years. I adopted her. She was so difficult to train. She was stubborn and didn't want to do anything. However, I loved her, and she was fun to train. She would always make me laugh. Even the simple commands she had a hard time with. Whenever I told her to "sit," not only would she sit but she would "roll over" aswell. I don't like retrievers because they are common, and plain (in my opinion). They just dont interest me. If I'm going to train a dog, I want the dog to at least interest me. I'm willing to spend time working with my dog. I guess I like taking on hard tasks. :) --Bracco-- Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 2, 2002 Posted June 2, 2002 Maybe Retrievers are so common because they are easily trained for people who want them to perform specific functions, or tricks. All that and a winning personality. Sometimes, "common and plain" aren't necessarily bad things. :P Nothing to do with anything, really. Just had to toss that in there... By the way, whatever happened to the Bassett Hound after four years...? Just curious. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 2, 2002 Posted June 2, 2002 [quote name='bracco']The reason I have chosen the Black and Tan Hound as a pet is not only because it is cute but it's different. Black and tan coon hounds are rare in my area. They are just...well....different. I have done some research on this breed and it does say that they were bred for hunting. Maybe they can pick up tricks from their natural extincts? I have the time and the patience, and it will be fun. I lived with a basset hound for about 4 years. I adopted her. She was so difficult to train. She was stubborn and didn't want to do anything. However, I loved her, and she was fun to train. She would always make me laugh. Even the simple commands she had a hard time with. Whenever I told her to "sit," not only would she sit but she would "roll over" aswell. I don't like retrievers because they are common, and plain (in my opinion). They just dont interest me. If I'm going to train a dog, I want the dog to at least interest me. I'm willing to spend time working with my dog. I guess I like taking on hard tasks. :) --Bracco-- Well at least you have a clue about hounds - why not look into tracking for fun? SAR work might also interest you. You might want to check out www.clickertraining.com for a new way to train that most dogs respond well to. When choosing a breed because its unusual its a good thing to think about *WHY* they are unusual. If they are unusual for reasons that would make them a good fit for your home that is one thing - getting one because it is rare or unusual in your area and won't fit well is quite another. There are 92 black and tans listed on www.petfinder.org today and even more of some of the other coonhound breeds and a similar number of bloodhounds. The fact that so many are in rescue is an indicator of either the size of the population of the breed OR how hard it is to manage as a pet. I guarantee you people will talk to you about your 'doberman' or 'rottie' or 'bloodhound' simply because the dog is the same color as those breeds may be. Most people will think you have a poor example of one of those breeds. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 2, 2002 Posted June 2, 2002 I'm a very flexible person and I am willing to take the time to understand the dog that I have purchased. Isn't it easier to train a dog when you get it as a puppy?? Horsefeathers-I don't know, I suppose I'd rather have an interesting dog than a dog that just listens and does whatever I want. There's no fun in training a dog that's willing to be trained. I love the challenge of "teaching an old dog new tricks." As for my little poochy (the basset hound of four years), I had to put her to sleep because she developed these tumors all over her body. They were cancerous. :cry: Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 2, 2002 Posted June 2, 2002 I'm very sorry to hear of your Bassett's cancer. I will be honest and admit I was expecting to hear that you'd gotten rid of her because it didn't work out since she wasn't quite so trainable. Please accept my condolences on the loss of your dog and good luck with the Coonhound. It sounds like you have your work cut out for you. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 2, 2002 Posted June 2, 2002 Bracco, I have a Beagle. They are hard to train as any hound. But if you make it fun for them and use lots of food anything is possible! I would suggest trying to teach it things that they do naturally.. like I taught mine to bay on command then give him a treat. He loves it! Right now I'm in obedience classes with him and he is the best in the class ( there is even a golden!) I used food to train him. If you use food with hounds you get quick responces. Hope this helps! :D Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 2, 2002 Posted June 2, 2002 Beagle88-Heehee, yeah, My old basset hound wouldn't even make an effort to learn new tricks without seeing the reward first. She had such a wonderful personality. Thanks for the advice. I will definitely make sure to start out with a trick that comes natural to the dog. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 6, 2002 Posted June 6, 2002 Mei-Mei, Thank you for the story, and the caution. I understand completely where everyone is coming from. But don't you think training a dog from puppy-hood would make a difference? Couldn't a person who owns a dog from puppyhood have some sort of impact on the way the dog will live and act for the rest of its life? I'm getting the coonhound 6-8 weeks old. Don't you think this is an important factor? This dog isn't just coming from a shelter. It's coming from a breeder. --Bracco-- Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 6, 2002 Posted June 6, 2002 Hello I have a shiba inu wich is a great dog but i am wondering if you could do lure coarsing with them.Wich is a sport were a system of pulleis puly a plastic bag across a wire wich resembles a rabbit or some thing what do you think. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 6, 2002 Posted June 6, 2002 Hi I have read many things about black and tack coonhounds and red bones. Here is what I know they make great companoins and done not have to be in a hunting environment. They need a big house and yard and do not trust them off leash. They will always have that instict so they will be harder to train and keep focused but that does not mean that they are dumn they are very smart. You will need to train them like everyother dog does . Good luck makes sure you exercise him ALOT VERY IMPORTANT!! Alexandria hoped i helped :) Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 6, 2002 Posted June 6, 2002 Alexandria-Thanks for the information. You've made me feel better about purchasing the Coonhound. I'm first going to introduce the dog to the leash, before I even consider keeping it on a leash for the rest of its life,heehee. I read in a book (about training puppies) that it needs to be introduced to the leash....play with it..and start to like it. Once it starts liking it, than progress will be made for when I whip out the leash, the dog will know the leash means good. Heh. Alex-Shiba Inus are adorable! I love the fox look. They are so beautiful! I'm sorry I can't help you. Lovely dog you have! --Bracco-- Quote
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